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ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED

(Second Part)

 BY ADOLFO RICARDO YBARRA

(This work uses the King James Version and relies on the Textus Receptus Greek text)

(English is not the authors native tongue, so there may be some non English expressions. It is available also the Spanish version of this text)

Copyright 2005 A.R.Y. and J.J.Y.

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THE OSAS COMPLETE PICTURE:

OBAB, OJAJ, OSAS 2, OIAI, OVAV, OPAP

 

There are more than OSAS:

It is now opportune to show a complete picture of all the things pertinent to Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS).

There are various "ONCE ... ALWAYS ..." related one another, OBAB (Once Believer Always Believer), OJAJ (Once Justified Always Justified), OSAS 2 (Once Son Always Son), OIAI (Once Indwelled Always Indwelled), OVAV (Once Vivified Always Vivified), OPAP (Once Predestinated Always Predestinated). We shall see each of them and the relationship between them too, because all of them are vitally related. Yea, there are more than OSAS. We shall construct our picture gradually adding a new element while advancing in its building. Finally we hope to have all the elements put together and related one another.

 

OBAB (Once Believer Always Believer):

We shall start our building at OBAB (Once Believer Always Believer):

1 Peter 1:7 

That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

The first thing we need to say about OBAB is that it comprise only one un-perishable faith, the true faith of the believer from the beginning to the end of his life (or to the glorification of the believers alive at the return of the Lord). There is not such thing as initial faith and the posterior faith, as if there were two faiths, it is better to speak of a initial phase of the faith and of the continuing phase of the same faith. There is an obvious relationship of mutual implication in the existence of the OB and the AB of OBAB, because the OB is the first part constituent of the AB, then the AB follows all of the OB in time, and all of the AB is preceded in time by the OB. The past existence of the OB  implies the present existence of the AB, and the present existence of the AB implies the past existence of the OB. We cannot speak of someone having the AB and having not had the OB. Also we cannot speak of someone having had OB and not having AB. There is only one possibility for a person to have OB and AB, or to have neither OB nor AB. Because of it keep in mind that when we read passages focusing upon the Initial Phase of the Faith it is supposed the existence of the Continuing Phase of the same Faith.

 

Secondly, we need to distinguish from the two parts of OBAB which part is effectual for our eternal salvation:

1) OB (Once Believer) indicating the Initial Phase of the Faith of the believer, that true one faith as reached at determined time in the life of a person for eternal and definitive salvation, so as salvation depends solely on that Initial Phase of the Faith, salvation does not depend on future conditions fulfilled by the believer during his life, so it is unconditional salvation; there was only one past condition for salvation, the Initial Phase of the Faith. So his Initial Phase of the Faith have saved the true believer definitively from eternal damnation, and he is not being saved nor maintained saved from damnation by the continuing phase of his faith.

The Word of God teaches clearly not only that our final salvation is secured by initial salvation, but also that our definitive salvation does not depend on present salvation:

Ephesians 2:8-10

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

The word “saved” is in the Greek not a simple past participle as in English; in the Greek that is a Perfect Tense Participle; and that signifies that the saved is now definitively saved by a past completed act of initial faith (eternally decisive initial salvation).

2) AB (Always Believer) indicating the Continuing Phase of the Faith, during all the life of the true believer, phase of the faith not dependent on any condition to be fulfilled by the believer in all his life. This phase of the faith is not for the eternal salvation but to keep from sin and edify the believer up to reach his assured final salvation sanctified and edified and much more. Again, the Initial Phase of his Faith have saved the true believer definitively from eternal damnation, and he is not being saved nor maintained saved from damnation by his Continuing Phase of the Faith during his life. By the present faith  the saved is receiving salvation (present salvation) not as an unconcluded process of eternal salvation, but as the result of a definitive and completely concluded decisive past act (eternally decisive initial salvation). According to Dan Corner the believer is now receiving salvation as a part of a process of eternal salvation still not concluded (and even a process that may not be concluded at last!); but that is contradictory with the Perfect Tense Participle of Ephesians 2:8. We believe, according to Ephesians 2:8, that we the true believers are receiving salvation constantly (present salvation), and at last we shall be saved from the physical death; but we believe we are receiving it not because our process of salvation is unconcluded, but, as the Perfect Tense implies, because the results of a past act of definitive salvation are now being poured upon us the saved.

 

OBAB-OJAJ Relationship:

Now, because of OBAB we are touching OJAJ (Once Justified Always Justified):

It is the beginning of the faith that justifies the believer, and the continuing of the faith is sustained by the effected justification:

Romans 1:17 

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Let us analyze this verse:

Romans 1:17 

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith {It is the Initial Phase of the Faith or the OB, the commencing of the faith, and is presented as the cause of the justification} to faith {it is the Continuing Phase of the Faith or the AB, and it is presented as a result of the justification o of the initial faith that caused the justification}: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

It is said first in the verse that the righteousness of God is revealed from faith; that is to say, that the beginning of the faith is the cause of the justification. And as the justification depends solely on that Initial Phase of the Faith, the justification does not depend on future conditions to be fulfilled by the believer in his life, so it is unconditional justification; there was only one past condition for justification, the Initial Phase of the Faith. So the Initial Phase of his Faith had justified the true believer definitively from all sin, and he is not being justified nor maintained justified from sin by the Continuing Phase of his Faith. Even more, the Continuing Phase of his Faith is maintained by the definitive justification, because it is said secondly in the verse that the righteousness of God is revealed “to faith”. We can represent all of it putting a “----->” to indicate a cause and his effect; then so we shall have “cause -----> effect”; the “------I” symbol is to show you the base of a thing and the based thing; so we shall have “base ------I based thing”. A little circle or point will represent the punctual action of a “Once”, and a continuous line will represent the continuous state of an “Always”. Here is a good graphic for you:

Figure 1: OBAB-OJAJ Relationship:

You can observe the arrow going from AJ to AB and not conversely, that is to say, that the Continuing Faith of the believer is sustained for the Definitive Justification, and not conversely. The Once Justified, or definitive Justification is the base for the Always Justified, or the permanently God’s maintained justification: can you see the use of the “-----I“? We have “definitive justification ------I permanent justification”; so we have the permanent justification permanently only because it is the result of the definitive God’s act of justification.

By its relationship with justification, we can call the Commencing Faith, Pre-Justification Phase of the Faith, in the sense it antecedes justification; and in the sense it causes definitive justification we can call it also For-Justification Phase of the Faith. Then we have that the Continuing Faith, because it follows the definitive justification, can be called Post-Justification Phase of the Faith; and in the sense it is sustained by the concluded and permanent justification, it can be called also From-Justification Phase of the Faith.

 

The glorious definitive and permanent justification from all sin:

An Arminian, Jeff Paton, said:

Many will try to explain {a false argument sustaining that the necessary continuous cleansing of the believer must replace the true concept of imputed righteousness}  this away with the fictional doctrine of the imputed righteousness of Christ. They claim, without any Biblical warrant whatsoever, that the blood of Christ covers their sin so God cannot see their filthiness.

(eternalsecurity.us\charles_stanley.htm by Jeff Paton)

Despite Jeff Paton I shall explain the security of salvation with the glorious biblical Paul’s doctrine of the imputed righteousness of Christ:

Romans 5:19 

For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one {Jesus} shall many be made righteous {so imputed righteousness is not fictitious, the only fictitious thing is the Jeff Paton’s concept of absence of imputed righteousness}.

And I shall rejoice in that the precious blood of Jesus Christ has justified me from all sin. Away from me to rely in works alike Jeff Paton but only in the perfect work of my perfect Lord and God. And Jeff Patton for sure has not appreciation for the sacrificial work of the Lord, here are his words:

Nowhere does the Scripture say that Jesus paid for sin, or that he was punished! By this statement, I have probably shocked most of my readers! Stanley’s theory of eternal security demands that sins are "paid for." This ensures the end result, the salvation of the one who’s sin debt has been paid. This theory is nothing more than a mere assumption. There is not a singular statement in all of Scripture that unambiguously states this, so why would anyone dogmatically claim it as Scripture fact unless their doctrinal idol were threatened?

eternalsecurity.us/charles_stanley.htm

Here you have some verses to solve the problem of Jeff Patton:

Isaiah 53:5

But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

{You see it, “the chastisement” was upon him, it was not very correct the Jeff’s sayings, Nowhere does the Scripture say that … he was punished; perhaps Jeff need to re-read his Bible, but perhaps first he need to quit from his face that little Arminian curtain.}

Matthew 20:28 

Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Mark 10:45 

For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

1 Timothy 2:6 

Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

{A ransom is what is given in exchange for another as the price of his redemption, the Lord himself, as delivered to dead, was the infinite price for our eternal salvation; all the Arminians will account before God for his typical phrase “cheap grace”}

Romans 4:25 

Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

1 Peter 3:18 

For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit

Isaiah 53:10 

Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. {thou…: or, his soul shall make an offering}

1 Peter 2:24

Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. {on: or, to}

Romans 6:23 

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. [Let’s think about it, why did the Lord die? He suffered the wages of sin! More precisely He suffered the wages of our sin!, as it is written “But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.” (Isaiah 53:5)}

The justification is the act of God by which He, by the commencing faith of the believer and not by works, imputes or attributes definitively to the believer the righteousness of Jesus Christ. It is a definitive act of God because is not dependent on the continuing faith, and then it should have expression in the Bible trough a perfect tense. Where is in the Bible that perfect tense for the justification? Here it is:

Romans 6:7 

For he that is dead is freed {Greek: Justified, Perfect Tense} from sin.

Paul is saying here that we are definitively justified from sin as if we are dead to sin. And as it is a terminated justification from sin (Greek: from the sin), not from the past sins, or from certain classes of sin, but from the sin, the corpus of all sin, past sins, present sins, and future sins, and of all kinds of sins, then there is not necessity of a future new act of justification for a certain future sin in the life of the believer; so, that the act of justification is to justify from all sin, does agree with the fact that the act of justification is a Perfect Tense act, a terminated and definitive one. There were and there are some Arminians trying to twist Romans 3:25 and, contradicting Romans 6:7, saying that we are justified only from past sins; but the Greek text is against them absolutely:

Romans 3:25 

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith {Initial Faith, as have been demonstrated} in his blood, to declare his righteousness for {this “for” is a bad  translation, the Greek text of the Textus Receptus uses the preposition “dia”, indicating “through”, then the correct translation of the following is “passing over” of past sins} the remission {passing over} of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Here is a best translation similar to the correct translation of the Spanish Version Reina-Valera 1909

Romans 3:25 

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness, through the passing over of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; {the idea is that God, at the Old Testament times, through His forbearance, did not deliver his final chastisement over the men till they have the opportunity to be justified by the faith at this time}

Moreover, the above idea contained in our better translation is in accordance with the following verse stating that the “passing over” that was talked about was a thing PREVIOUS to the arrived time for the justification by faith:

Romans 3:25-26

25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness, through the passing over of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

26  To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

And if there is an Arminian saying that being definitively justified from the sin (which is taught by Romans 6:7 and context) is a license to sin, then let me say to him that Paul the Apostle says that it is THE BASIS TO NOT TO SIN. Let us read the passage:

Romans 6:1-18

1  What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

2  God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

3  Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4  Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

5  For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6  Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7  For he that is dead is freed {Greek: JUSTIFIED, PERFECT TENSE} from sin.

8  Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

9  Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

10  For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

11  Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

12  Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

13  Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

14  For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15  What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

16  Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

17  But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

18  Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Now let me comment this passage:

Romans 6:1-18

1  What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? {It is the false conclusion the Arminians usually raise against the preaching of the gospel being unaware they are fighting against Paul the Apostle}

2  God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? {It is the true conclusion the Apostle of the true gospel raises against the Arminians. The true believers are dead to sin, that is they are declared definitively righteous by God, definitively justified from the sin (v. 7). That is contrary to the conditional salvation or conditional security of Arminians}

3  Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4  Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life {It is the perfect association of the true believers with Jesus Christ, buried and raised. And it will be seen the fact that Jesus, alike His believers, was UNCONDITIONALLY buried and raised, it will be  remarkably pointed out by Paul at vs. 5, 8, 9, 10, 11}

5  For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: {That is to say, that we are like Christ, eternally unconditionally secure, eternally resurrected to a new life, nevermore to dead, vs. 8, 9, 10, 11}

6  Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him {Aorist Tense, a past fact} that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin {a conclusion the Arminians do not like to recongnize for a definitive justification}.

7  For he that is dead is freed {Greek: JUSTIFIED, PERFECT TENSE, that is to say, a unique act of justification and of permanent validity, coincident with the fact we are alike Christ unconditionally buried and raised to a new life, vs. 5, 8, 9, 10, 11} from sin.

8  Now if we be dead with Christ {being definitively justified from sin, v. 7}, we believe that we shall also live with him {then we the justified are living definitively as He is living definitively}:

9  Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more {we shall also live with him, v. 5, and will dead no more alike Christ dieth no more}; death hath no more dominion over him {then not more dominion over us the definitively justified and, alike Christ, definitively resurrected to a new life}.

10  For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God {there is not conditional security for Jesus Christ}.

11  Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord {that is to say, alike for Jesus there is not an Arminian conditional security for us, only a Pauline perfect unconditional security likewise Jesus Christ}.

12  Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. {We the OJAJ (Once Justified Always Justified) then have the possibility of making the sin does not reign in our bodies, that is not a license to sin; it is a license to overcome sin!}

13  Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead {definitively and unconditionally alive from the dead as it was said}, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

14  For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace {Glory to God!! It is our license to not to sin!!}

15  What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace {It is the false conclusion the Arminians usually raise against the security or our grace being unaware they are fighting against Paul the Apostle}? God forbid.

16  Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death {here are those yet not obeying the gospel and yet not justified from sin, v. 17}, or of obedience {obedience to the doctrine of the gospel, v. 17} unto righteousness?

17  But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin {we were it before obey the gospel but now having obeyed and so having been definitively justified from sin, v. 7, nevermore we shall be servants of sin, v. 6}, but ye have obeyed {Aorist Tense, a past act, when we believeed the gospel and so having been definitively justified from sin, v. 7}  from the heart that form of doctrine {the gospel itself} which was delivered you {Aorist Tense, a past act}.

18  Being then made free {Aorist Tense, a past act, and by v. 7 a definitive act} from sin, ye became the servants {Aorist Tense, a past act and as a consequence of definitive justification (v. 7), a definitive act}  of righteousness .

OJAJ (Once Justified Always Justified) is not a license to sin, it is the only real way to overcome the sin and you Arminians, rejecting the perfect justification from God, are servants of sin! You Arminians, blaspheming the true gospel that Paul has preached us, are those men spoken from at Romans 3:8!

Romans 3:8

And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

Let us continue, we have showed that the justification is terminated and definitive by:

-Showing that justification is dependent on commencing faith, and showing that continuing faith is dependent on justification; then justification is not dependent on the future faith of the believer; then justification is a terminated and definitive act of God at the commencing faith of the believer. (Arminians, stop of saying that the loss of faith causes the loss of justification).

-Showing that justification is likewise the dead and resurrection of Christ, so unique and definitive and terminated, and then unconditional. (The Arminians will make well stopping of saying that the true believers are conditionally secure,  The Believer's Conditional Security” is a false gospel).

-Showing the use of perfect tense for the justification, and that it is then an act concluded terminated in the past, which result of the justified believer is a permanent result, which is a definitive result because justification never is repetitive in the Bible. (Arminians, stop of blabbing about “maintain the salvation”).

-Showing that justification is from all sin, and then there are neither future sin requiring a new justification, nor future sin without having been justified from. (Arminians. Stop of blabbing about sins from which we are not justified from the beginning causing the loss of salvation).

Now, having demonstrated plenty of proof the definitiveness of the justification at the beginning of the faith, and having checked the occurrence of the Perfect Tense for justification, we can proceed to show various passages speaking of the justification by faith and interpret them correctly:

Romans 3:22 

Even the righteousness of God which is by faith  {it is the faith alone which in its commencing brings upon definitive justification or definitive imputation or attribution of the righteousness of God to the believer} of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe {It is the commencing of the faith in present tense as focused at the same moment of its being exercised and entering in his phase of continuing faith} , but is: for there is no difference:

Romans 3:26 

To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier {Present Tense: God having justified definitively (as has been showed) maintains continuously his justification and it never can become null, Once Justified Always Justified} of him which believeth in Jesus {Greek: “him which is of the faith of Jesus”}.

Romans 3:28 

Therefore we conclude that a man is justified {Present Tense, the continuous maintenance of the definitive justification by God} by faith {here we need to understand it as the only faith from beginning to end, but remembering that it is the commencing of that faith which brought upon definitive justification} without the deeds of the law.

Romans 4:5 

But to him that worketh not, but believeth {It is the Initial Faith in present tense as focused at the same moment of its being exercised and entering in his phase of Following Faith} on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Romans 5:1 

Therefore being justified {Aorist Tense, the past act of definitive justification} by faith {as that justification is an act accomplished in the past, then is was accomplished at the beginning of the faith}, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

 

The OJAJ-OSAS 2 Relationship:

Well, now is the moment to make an halt in our building, a little stop in our interesting travel. We have started from OBAB (Once Believer Always Believer), and then we passed to OJAJ (Once Justified Always Justified), and pointed out the relationship between OBAB and OJAJ, putting it in an interesting graphic. Now we can continue our travel passing to OSAS 2 (Once Son Always Son) pointing out the relationship between OSAS 2 and OJAJ. The relationship is as follow, Once Justified the believer is made a son of God and then an heir. Here are our verses for it:

Titus 3:7 

That being justified {Aorist Tense, the past fact of the definitive justification as we have demonstrated} by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life {the final salvation secured by the eternally decisive initial salvation}.

And the heirs are such because they are sons:

Romans 8:17 

And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

The “if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together” is not a condition to fulfill in addition to be sons of God to be glorified; because the Greek “ei” commencing the “if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together  is united to the Greek “per” meaning “actually” or “in fact”; and the resulting compound word “eiper” can be translated “inasmuch as”. Then a better translation is:

Romans 8:17 

And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; because really we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Then we have that the fact of to be “heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ” is presented as coexistent with the assured fact that we the true believers “suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together”. As it is also said that our suffering is a past given gift and not a future condition to fulfill:

Philippians 1:29 

For unto you it is given {Aorist Tense, Indicative Mood, so a past concluded act}  in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake {Not only was given to us the true believers the un-perishable faith; but, with that un-perishable faith, to suffer for his sake; so, as it is with the un-perishable faith, it is a faithful endurance in the suffering for Christ}

It is remarkable that the sonship was first presented also as an actual and  concluded fact for all the true believers, and secondly was presented that it is an assured fact that the sons of God will suffer for His sake, and then thirdly is presented that it is an assured fact that the sons of God will be glorified:

Romans 8:15-19

15  For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear {The son of God must not fear as Dan Corner does; fearing constantly to lose his salvation by a failure to fulfill a condition}; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God {It is declared the fact that we the true believers are children of God, and that it is not a unknowable fact, but a fact testified to us by the Spirit in us the children of God}:

17  And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ {a fact not dependent on future conditions but on the concluded and permanent fact of to be sons of God}; if so be {Greek: “eiper”, introducing an actual fact also and not a future condition that should be fulfilled} that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together {the actual fact introduced by the “eiper”}.

18  For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed {an assured future to be accomplished; not a non assured fact à la Dan Corner} in us.

19  For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God {not of “some” sons of God, as some Arminians would like it; but of “the” sons of God}.

That is to say, that the definitive and permanent justification is the cause of the sonship. And as the sonship depends on that definitive and permanent justification, then the sonship does not depend on future conditions to be fulfilled by the believer during his life, so it is unconditional sonship; there is only one unalterable condition for the sonship, the definitive and permanent justification. So his definitive and permanent justification makes the true believer definitively and permanently a son of God, and he is not being made son nor maintained son by nothing in the future. We can represent all of it putting again a “----->” to indicate a cause and his effect; then so “cause -----> effect”; the “------I” symbol is to show you the base of a thing and the based thing; so “base ------I based thing”. You can see all of it again in a graphic manner:

Figure 2: OJAJ-OSAS 2 Relationship:

That is to say, that a son of God is forever and unconditionally son of God because his definitive and permanent justification according to Titus 3:7 and all the things we have seen.

But what have to say the Arminians  about it?

Also, angels and Adam are called "son(s) of God" (Job 1:6; Lk. 3:38, KJV), yet some angels and Adam lost their eternal life, and we can too as sons of God.

(www.evangelicaloutreach.org/faq.htm, an axcerpt from Chapter 16 of the book, The Believer' Conditional Security by Dan Corner)

Perhaps Dan is hiding us something he does not like we to know, he is saying that we are sons of God alike Adam before the fall by which he became son of the devil; even as angels from which many became demons after their fall; but what is he hiding of us? What is this tricky Dan robbing from us? Let us think about it very much carefully, are the true believers in Christ like angels with the possibility of being demons? Are they like Adam with the possibility of becoming sons of the devil. Where is here the trap? Dan will not fool us! We shall discover his trap!  Perhaps if we ask questions we shall can discover it: let us rack our brains. I get it! What did have the believers in Christ that neither Adam before his fall nor angels before his fall did had? Answer: Justification from the sin in the precious blood of Jesus Christ. That we have showed, a son of God believer in Christ is forever and unconditionally son of God because his definitive and permanent justification. 

As we have presented OBAB (Once Believer Always Believer), before to continue ahead, it is convenient to show now the relationship between OBAB and OSAS 2 (Once Son Always Son):

Do not hope Dan Corner will explain correctly Romans 8:17: he, strikingly and trickyly, will erase the footprints, so you cannot find the truth. Here is the Dan Corner “explanation” of Romans 8:17:

In a general way, we are "heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ" (Rom. 8:17). Because we have decided to "take up our cross, deny ourselves and follow Jesus" (Lk. 9:23), we get as our inheritance everything, including God himself! God will be OUR God and we will be HIS sons forever (Rev. 21:7).

(www.evangelicaloutreach.org/overcome.htm, The Overcomer's Inheritance, Dan Corner)

Paul said us that we are “heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ” because “we are the children of God” (v.16); Paul said clearly “And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ”; but Dan Corner is not content with that and plays his accustomed game of quit from the Word and add to the Word; in his “explanation” of Romans 8:17 he robs from us the Paul’s declared cause of the being an heir; and puts in its place a declaration of the Lord referred to be his disciples (Lk. 9:23); you can see here the tricky Dan’s custom of erasing the footprints; so you may be blinded about the true cause of being an heir (to be a son of God, as Paul clearly says); and so blinded, Dan may mislead you to his fake conditional security of the believer. And what about being son of God (the Dan’s ignored cause of being an heir)? Dan pushes it to the future, mixing it with the inheritance by saying “we will be HIS sons forever”; have you noted the “will be”? Dan does not like to consider here our present (Ro. 8:15-19) definitive sonship but have pushed it to the future: how? Quoting (Rev. 21:7):

Revelation 21:7 

He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Obviously he that is now definitively a son of God and then an heir, according to Paul the Apostle, “shall inherit all things” and He “will be his God”, and he shall be His son, obviously he shall be the son of God also in the future kingdom. But Dan has robbed from us the first part of the issue and has put only the last part as if it does not depend on the first part. For Dan, the first part is the first victory at initial salvation, which, for Dan, does not secure final victory:

Two Times To Overcome

At the point of initial salvation, we are shown to be overcomers:

You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world (1 Jn. 4:4, NKJV).

See also 1 Jn. 2:13,14; 5:4,5.

Yet in a different sense, the Lord referred to final salvation when he addressed those already saved. He stated that we must be faithful to the point of death to overcome and not be hurt by the second death

(www.evangelicaloutreach.org\initial2.htm, Chapter 5 of the book, The Believer's Conditional Security by Dan Corner)

 

Also the Arminian Jeff Patton uphold it:

We are also told that only " He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son." Rev. 21:7. Notice that the status of final and complete son-ship and adoption is not finalized until the future. Also note the implications of this verse! The one who does not overcome does not receive all things, and are not adopted as sons!

(eternalsecurity.us\charles_stanley.htm by Jeff Paton)

What a tricky men are these Dan and Jeff! But I shall show now a thing that will not like those Dan and Jeff; I shall show you who are the overcomers of Revelation 21:7; this will not like the Armininians, but the overcomers of Revelation 21:7 are those being now the sons of God and then true believers:

1 John 5:4

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

Again we have the same thing previously showed by the Lord by his narrow way analogy and by another things previously showed, that the final salvation is secured by initial salvation, here the final overcoming is secured by the initial overcoming of having become sons of God. The Scripture cannot be broken.

So, to be one that overcome is not a condition to fulfill in the future; but it is a thing that is assured for “whatsoever is born of God” (1 John 5:4); so we have also that if we are children of God then we are those that overcome, not only heirs.  Now a little of Greek, John says us that the son of God “overcometh the world”, a Present Tense, indicating continuous overcoming making the believer one that always overcome (1 John 5:5); and that continuous overcoming does not depend on a future condition to be fulfilled but upon a definitively reached fact, to be sons of God; because the “born” of 1 John 5:4 is a Perfect Tense; then indicating to be son of God is not a continuous process; but a definitively reached state. Then we have assured the overcoming not by a future condition to be fulfilled; but by a definitively reached state, to be sons of God:

1 John 5:4-5 

4 For whatsoever is born {Perfect Tense, a past definitively reached state} of God overcometh {Present Tense, then not only a victory at our initial or final salvation as Dan Corner will like it, but a continuous victory} the world: and this is the victory that overcometh {Aorist Tense, Participle Mood, to emphasize the security of that previous continuous victory} the world, even our faith.

5  Who is he that overcometh {Greek: “o nikoon”, exactly alike Revelation 21:7} the world, but he that believeth {“the believer” according to the Participle in Present Tense } that Jesus is the Son of God?

Now, what is the victory itself? It is the faith of the sons of God, “and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith”. Then, our faith, or victory, is not based upon future conditions to be fulfilled; but upon a definitively reached state, to be sons of God. Let me repeat it, the overcoming, or the faith of the sons of God, is presented at 1 John 5:4 as dependent on a definitively reached state, being sons of God:

1 John 5:4  

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

And the born of God became such by the commencing of the faith:

John 1:12-13

12 But as many as received, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Let me show the tenses and moods to see how it does not contradict 1 John 5:4 (showing that being born of God is not a process, but a definitive reached state):

John 1:12-13

12 But as many as received {Aorist Tense, Indicative Mode, that is to say, that we received Christ, not that we are receiving Him as a process}, to them gave he power {Aorist Tense, Indicative Mode, that is to say, that He gave us the power to be sons of God, no that He is giving us the power as a process} to become the sons of God, even to them that believe {Present Tense, indicating the continuity of his commencing faith, Once Believer Always Believers, but the Aorist Tenses for the precedent things indicate those things are reached at and by the commencing of the faith, and not by the continuing of the faith as a continuous process} on his name:

13 Which were born {Aorist Tense, Indicative Mode, that is to say, that were born, no that we are being born as a process}, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Dan makes an attempt to twist it quoting the following verse:

Galatians 3:26

26  For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

That verse is saying to us that by faith in Christ Jesus we the believers are all the children of God; the Arminians like Dan Corner would like it saying that we are sons of God while we are maintaining ourselves believing:

We are sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus (Gal. 3:26), yet it is possible to stop believing (Lk. 8:13), have our faith destroyed (2 Tim. 2:18) and for our faith to become shipwrecked (1 Tim. 1:19,20).

(www.evangelicaloutreach.org/faq.htm, an axcerpt from Chapter 16 of the book, The Believer' Conditional Security by Dan Corner)

This verses Dan cites here, (Lk. 8:13), (2 Tim. 2:18) and (1 Tim. 1:19,20), have been treated and found not sustaining the Dan’s claims; which are bad interpretations and a rejecting of clear Scripture such as 1 Peter 1:7 teaching that the faith of the true believer is un-perishable; as it has been seen at the first part of this essay at THE TRUTH ABOUT  DAN CORNER’S MISUSED VERSES. And clearly, according to 1 Peter 1:3,  the un-perishable faith is proper of a born again:

1 Peter 1:3

3  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again {The recipient of the following words speaking of un-perishable faith (1 Peter 1:7) are the born again, so it is fatuous to say that a born again can lose his faith as Dan Corner said “We are sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus (Gal. 3:26), yet it is possible to stop believing”}  unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead

Moreover, if we wish to interpret rightly the Bible, we need to remember that being  the sons of God is not a continuous process, but a definitive reached state; then if we are now the sons of God (Present Tense), we are such by the commencing of our present faith, and not by the exercising or our present faith. The Arminians are very ready to ignore the verses with the Aorist Tense and Perfect Tense for being born of God not supporting his false doctrine. Moreover, 1 John 5:4 says that our faith, or victory, is secured by our condition of sons of God, and not conversely as Dan Corner would like it.

You see it, the Aorist Tenses of John 1:12-13 only are an indication of the full fact as it was presented by the Perfect Tense for “born” in 1 John 5:4. The Arminians like to ignore it and they do an absurd reasoning; they say that as the believers in Christ believe continually, then they are sons of God by the continuous faith an not as a concluded fact; but they are very slapdash; the words from the Word clearly say by the Aorist Tenses and the Perfect Tense that the sonship is produced  as a definitively reached state; then, dear Arminians, we cannot at the present or at the future reach a thing which has been reached completely at the past; then, dear Arminians, if you are honest, you need to suppose that, if this is a completely and definitively past reached fact, then it was reached by the commencing of the faith, and it is not mantained by the continuing of the faith.

Then we have that we were born of God by the commencing faith, and our condition of sons of God is the support of the continuing Faith:

Figure 3: OBAB-OSAS 2 Relationship:

 

At the graphic we can observe that the commencing faith is the cause for being born of God, and the condition of being born of God is not sustained by the continuing faith: but conversely. The Bible does not say that we are maintained sons of God by our continuing faith; the Bible calls the faith “the victory” and presents this victory (or faith) as caused by the sonship:

1 John 5:4 

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

Before to pass to the OBAB-OJAJ-OSAS 2 Relationship, we shall show another resounding, overwhelming, and conclusive proof that all the sons of God will be glorified at the end (final salvation assured for all the sons of God):

Romans 8:28-30

28  And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29  For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Resounding, overwhelming, and conclusive proof that cannot be broken; only let us follow the “whom” and “them” and we shall see the glorious truth that Dan Corner would like to deny and we shall met at the end that the same whom God justified (who are the brothers of Jesus, v. 27, so they are the sons of God), them He also glorified. I reject as aberrant the Dan Corner ‘s teaching implying the final “them” does not correspond to the final “whom”; I am not crazy, still I can understand the clear meaning of the words! I can see beyond doubt God will glorify all the justified; the same whom God justified, them glorified. And if all the justified ones will be glorified without failing, then no one justified will lose his salvation, all them will be saved. Amen. Glory to God!!!

Moreover, all the elects are presented here as justified and finally glorified, and, coincidently with Romans, the elects are presented as born again in 1 Peter, and are presented as having an un-perishable faith:

1 Peter 1:1-9

1  Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

2  Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied {The recipient of the following words speaking of un-perishable faith (1 Peter 1:7) are the elects, so it is fatuous to say that an elect can lose his faith}.

3  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again {The recipient of the following words speaking of un-perishable faith (1 Peter 1:7) are the born again, so it is fatuous to say that a born again can lose his faith}  unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4  To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

Here is an Arminian supposedly refuting to Charles Stanley; and also attempting vainly to twist the meaning of the definitive adoption:

{Charles Stanley:}

If our salvation can be lost, our adoption into the family of God is not permanent. We can be unadopted, so to speak. Such a process, however, is never described or even alluded to in the New Testament.

{“Refutation” to Stanley by the Arminian:}

Mr. Stanley is also mistaken in the fact that he talks as if the believers adoption is a finished transaction in actuality and in the mind of God. In Romans 8:23 we are told that our adoption is not finalized until we receive our glorification. " Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies." (NIV). Stanley fails to notice that the Scriptures say that our adoption is not final until the redemption of our bodies.

(eternalsecurity.us\charles_stanley.htm by Jeff Paton)

There is an half truth and a consequent false conclusion in that Arminian´s “refutation”. This Arminian, Jeff Paton, follows the same obscure method to twist the truth, that is, to conceal a truth and to invent a thing not existing in the Bible. First he conceals the truth about the present phase of adoption saying Stanley is also mistaken in the fact that he talks as if the believers adoption is a finished transaction”; even if the believers adoption is a not finished transaction, that does not mean that a definitive and decisive part of the transaction has been not finished; in fact the Holy Spirit is now witnessing to our spirit as a Spirit of adoption that we are now sons of God; and we can know that the remaining for the adoption status is not the sonship (which, as showed, is a present possession testified to us by the Spirit), but a future redemption of our bodies:

Romans 8:23 

And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Our sonship is not liable for a future completion, because we are now sons of God as a definitively reached state (as it was demonstrated by the use of the perfect tense at 1 John 5:4); then, at the final day of the redemption of our body, our sonship only will be manifested, not obtained, as it is written:

Romans 8:19

For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

1 John 3:2 

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

So, Charles Stanley was right when saying, “If our salvation can be lost, our adoption into the family of God is not permanent. We can be unadopted, so to speak. Such a process, however, is never described or even alluded to in the New Testament.” Yea Charles, such a process is never described or even alluded to in the New Testament; and moreover, we can add that our adoption in the family of God is positively testified by the Scripture as permanent, the sonship never ends, Once Son Always Son, that we have demonstrated above and I shall not demonstrate it here again. So Jeff Paton is wrong also when saying:

"There is no scriptural support for the notion that the adoption process can’t be reversed."

(eternalsecurity.us\charles_stanley.htm by Jeff Paton)

So, the redemption of our body is an assured thing anywhere.

The same whom God justified, them glorified. Amen.

And, ¿how it is that no one Arminian did notice that Paul did say, at Romans 8:23, “the redemption of our body” an not “the redemption of our soul”?

 

The OBAB-OJAJ-OSAS 2 Relationship:

Now we can unite all the three things, OBAB, OJAJ, OSAS 2, into one picture:

Figure 4: OBAB-OJAJ-OSAS 2 Relationship:

You can question yourself, why the arrow from Always Justified does not more go to Always Believer? The answer is that now we have an intermediate cause between AJ and AB, it is the Always Son. The AJ is still the cause of AB, but we now know that is by sustaining the Always Son, which in turn is the cause of AB; so Always Justified is the cause of Always Believer through Always Son.

 

OIAI (Once Indwelled Always Indwelled):

Galatians 4:6 

And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

We know that Once Son Always Son; now, according to Galatians 4:6, once son then indwelled by the Holy Spirit; that is, “because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts”. How we can know that the Spirit indwells the son of God forever? Because we have demonstrated that Once Son Always Son; and if always son, then always indwelled; because the Holy Spirit has been given to the sons to testify their sonship; and as they are always son, then the Holy Spirit is always indwelling the sons to testify them their sonship. As it is written also:

Romans 8:15-16 

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

Then, as always sons (a demonstrated thing), also always indwelled by the Holy Spirit.

 

The OSAS_2-OIAI Relationship:

As was showed above, in the previous section, it isbecause of the sonship that the Holy Spirit was given to the heart of the believer to witness of that sonship; so we have the OSAS 2-OIAI relationship, that is, OSAS 2 is the cause for OIAI:

Figure 5: OSAS 2-OIAI Relationship:

 

The OIAI-OBAB  Relationship:

Ephesians 1:13 

In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Galatians 3:14 

That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

The “after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit” clearly is pointing us to the commencing of our faith as the cause of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, here presented as a sealing, obviously the indwelling is implied in the sealing, because it is mentioned that the sealing is the accomplishment of the promise of the giving of the Spirit to the believers (Galatians 3:14). But considering the intermediate causes, the OB (Once Believer) causes the OJ (Once Justified), the OJ causes the OS  (Once Son), the OS causes the OI (Once Indwelled), and by all this we can trace a combined graphic of all these things.

As for the continuing of the faith, it is supported by the continuous indwelling of the Holy Spirit, as it is written:

Romans 8:15-16 

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God

Our present phase of continuing faith is sustained by the inner bearing of witness with our spirit that the Holy Spirit renders for ever (for ever because  was demonstrated, Once Son Always Son, then Once Indwelled Always Indwelled). This permanent and glorious testimony of the Spirit and of our spirit is obviously an inner indestructible fountain of our continuing faith.

An overwhelming independent proof about Once Indwelled Always Indwelled will be obtained, by the way, a short distance ahead from the following sections “OVAV (Once Vivified Always Vivified)” and “The OIAI-OVAV Relationship”.

 

The OBAB-OJAJ-OSAS 2-OIAI Relationship:

Considering  the intermediate causes the AJ (Always Justified) is the basis for the AS (Always Son), and the AS is the cause for the AI (Always Indwelled), and the AI is the cause of the AB (Always Believer), and it agrees with the demonstrated dependence of AB on AJ and AS. Now we can see the graphic of all the relationships between all the elements seen till now:

Figure 6: The OBAB-OJAJ-OSAS 2-OIAI Relationship):

Well, our complete picture is nearly ready.

 

OVAV (Once Vivified Always Vivified):

John 4:14 

But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life

The Lord clearly teaches the wonderful truth that the eternal life is for ever once someone had drunk the water of life. First the water of life was outside the future believer, he did not have eternal life; but once he drank from the water of life, the life is perpetuated within him as a fountain within him springing up into everlasting life making the believer to drink perpetually involuntarily from the springing water from within, which make the believer to be irrigated from within without the necessity of to drink again from outside, first he drank from the outside to eternal life, then he drink from within because he is always made to drink interiorly from the eternal interior fountain.

John 4:14 

But whosoever drinketh {Aorist Tense, showing the act of drinking as a punctual act, and according to the context it is a past, a previous punctual act before the interior formation of the eternal fountain within the believer} of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst {Aorist Tense, indicating the thirst never will rise again; not the thirst may be present and then be appeased when it rises; the thirst will never rise again}; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life {This is the reason that the thirst never will rise again, the interior fountain irrigate and “make drink” the believer without the voluntary drinking from a thirst declared never returning. The believer has not only the water, but also the well of water springing up into everlasting life}

All of this means Once Vivified Always Vivified. Now let us remember the Dan Corner’s dark and diabolical realm blabbing about strange stopping fountains and former true believers suffering thirst eternally in the hell. I hate his false gospel; I hate the nauseous and sulfurous fake conditional salvation of that servant of the Devil. I love the Lord, I love his fountain forever within me and I love I shall never thirst. The Lord love me and has given me that fountain and if there are some devil’s servants hating me and desiring I cannot have that fountain and to make me believe I have not that fountain, all they will be anathema; his love is fake and they do not love the souls nor the true believers. Glory to the Lord! I love Him and his words:

John 4:14 

But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life

 

The OIAI-OVAV Relationship:

The “well of water springing up into everlasting life” is no other than the Holy Spirit forever within the believer:

John 7:38-39

38  He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39  (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

Dan will attempt to cheat us saying that “He that believeth” is in Present Tense, then he will say that to believe constantly is a condition to receive the flow of the river. But he cannot cheats us anymore, by John 4:14  we know that the eternal flow of the water is assured by the first drinking and not by a continuous drinking during all the life; the first drinking assures the fountain, and the fountain assures our eternal drinking. Obviously now, the believer, “He that believeth” (in Present Tense), is a people having got the first drink, now he remains a believer for ever (1 Peter 1:7) because the Lord has said “but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life” and he drinks constantly because the fountain within him make him to drink, and he will never thirst. But the present tense is here a focusing of the moment the believer is entering in the continuous faith, because the commencing faith can be depicted by a present tense also, because it continues. How we can know that?, because  the Lord said at John 4:14  that it is the first drink which brings the eternal fountain.

By the way, clearly, because the water flowing forever within the believer is the Holy Spirit, we have now an independent proof for Once Indwelled Always Indwelled.

And because we have this water that springs up into everlasting life, we have the relationship between Once Indwelled Always Indwelled and Once Vivified Always Vivified, the eternal indwelling of the Holy Spirit is the cause for the eternal life, He, the Holy Spirit, is the fountain of eternal life within the believer:

Figure 7: The OIAI-OVAV Relationship:

 

The OBAB-OVAV Relationship:

We know that the beginning of the faith produces definitive justification from all sin in the blood of Jesus Christ, and that the definitive justification sustains a definitive sonship, and the definitive sonship makes possible a permanent indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and the permanent indwelling of the Holy Spirit is the permanent fountain for eternal life; so the relationship between OBAB (Once Believer Always Believer) and OVAV (Once Vivified Always Vivified), making abstraction from the intermediate causes between them, is that the beginning of the faith produces definitive eternal life, that is to say, not dependent on future conditions to be fulfilled by the believer, then, the continuing of the faith is necessarily dependent on eternal life:

Figure 8: The OBAB-OVAV Relationship:

Now it is convenient to see where the Bible reveals the beginning of the faith as the cause of a definitive eternal life:

John 4:14 

But whosoever drinketh {Aorist Tense} of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life

This verse was treated completely in the sections immediately above, the water of eternal life springs forever by the first drink (the commencing of the faith).

John 5:24 

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed {Perfect Tense} from death unto life.

This verse reveals us the eternal life not as a continuous unconcluded process or liable for to be unconcluded forever (as the Dan Corners would like it), our Lord reveals us that the eternal life is given once for all; He uses the Perfect Tense for the “is passed” from death unto life. That is to say, that the believer has eternal life once for all, he has passed definitively from death to life, and now he has eternal life not as a process which is still unconcluded, but as the receiving of a result from a past definitive concluded fact.

The Arminians pretend to minimize it and they attempt to cheat us saying that the “He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me” uses a Present Tense for “heareth” and “believeth”, then they will say that to believe constantly is a condition to receive continuously eternal life; but again the Arminians are incapable of conciliate the Scripture and are making their nauseous and diabolical footprints erasing. The present tense is here a focusing of the moment the believer is entering in the continuous faith, because the commencing faith can be depicted by a present tense also, because it continues. How we can know that?, because the Lord says us that the eternal life was granted once for all, using the Perfect Tense for “is passed” from death to life, then that was at the beginning of the faith, not by the continuing of it.

John 6:51 

I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat {Aorist Tense} of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

The eating of the commencing of the faith here is revealed as sufficient for eternal life; it is used the Aorist Tense for “eat”.

John 6:53 

Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat {Aorist Tense} the flesh of the Son of man, and drink {Aorist Tense} his blood, ye have no life in you.

The eating and drinking of the commencing of the faith here is revealed as sufficient for eternal life; it is used the Aorist Tense for “eat” and “drink”.

By the way, for the dear Catholics believing that Jesus is speaking from to eat and drink real flesh and blood of Jesus, here is the needed clarification from the Lord:

John 6:63 

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Another verse:

Acts 13:48

And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

 

Here, the true believers are presented as such by his initial true faith ("believed" is in Greek in Aorist Tense), they are presented as ordained to eternal life immutably by God, because  it is used for "ordained" a Perfect Tense, Voice Passive, then indicating that the God’s act of ordaining them was a past one and a past concluded one and a past concluded with the effect of the act assured by the concluded past fact not by a future thing.

Well, we have seen verses where the Bible reveals the beginning of the faith as the cause of the definitive eternal life; now we can cite the verses where it is used the Present Tense for “to believe”. The Arminians will attempt to cheat us saying that the Present Tense indicates that to believe constantly is a condition to receive continuously eternal life. But the present tenses are here a focusing of the moment the believer is entering in the continuous faith, because the commencing faith can be depicted by a present tense also, because it continues. How we can know that? Because we have seen before the verses where the Bible reveals the beginning of the faith as the cause of the definitive eternal life.

John 3:15 

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:16 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:36 

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 6:35 

And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life : he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

John 6:40 

And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:47 

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

John 6:54 

Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 11:25 

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

John 20:31 

But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life  through his name.

1 Timothy 1:16 

Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life  everlasting.

The following verse says that a believer can know he has eternal life and so to believe even more on the name of the Son of God:

1 John 5:13 

These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

So we remember our graphic, the beginning of the faith will produce eternal life, and the eternal life will produce the continuing faith:

Figure 8: The OBAB-OVAV Relationship:

 

The OJAJ-OVAV Relationship:

Romans 5:18-21; 6:1-2

18  Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

19  For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

20  Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

21  That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

1  What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

2  God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

 

Here, “by the righteousness of one … justification of life”, “righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord”, the eternal life is presented as dependent on the Christ righteousness imputed unto the believers (not on the righteousness of the good works of the believer), so as by another demonstration OJAJ (Once Justified Always Justified) was showed, then it is demonstrated again OVAV (Once Vivified Always Vivified), because the eternal life is dependent on justification. Justification is the basis of eternal life, and was demonstrated that the INITIAL JUSTIFICATION is the FINAL and DEFINITIVE JUSTIFICATION; and if God is justifying it is only the remaining permanent RESULT of the definitive initial act perfectly consummated. So we have our graphic for the OJAJ-OVAV relationship:

Figure 9: The OJAJ-OVAV Relationship:

Paul shows us that the sin is still making his deadly work in the justified believer, but this deadly work is now insufficient to stop the grace of God, and “where sin abounded, grace did much more abound”. But Dan Corner speaks as if the spirit of the believer can die and the sin can extinguish the grace and make invalid the righteousness of Jesus, which was imputed to the believer:

Eternal security teachers declare we are justified by faith (Rom. 5:1), but they stop there! They never proclaim the additional truth that a true believer can cease believing and fall away (or die spiritually)

(www.evangelicaloutreach.org\anothergospel.htm, ETERNAL SECURITY IS ANOTHER GOSPEL, Dan Corner)

Again we need to remember that the Dan Corner’s “additional truth that a true believer can cease believing” is a negation of 1 Peter 1:7; and we are not interested in “additional truth” that contradicts clear Scripture! Obviously as a believer cannot lose his faith and has a fountain making him never thirst, he is not someone who can die spiritually. Paul puts the things in their proper places and puts order where Dan Corner has made disorder: To die spiritually from sin is the daily experience of the unbeliever, who is under the law; and the believers nevermore experience the death from sin because they are forever vivified by the righteousness of Jesus Christ who has accomplished the demands of the law for them:

Romans 7:5-6

5  For when we were in the flesh {when we were unbelievers, and had not the Spirit of God (because the believers are not in the flesh having the Spirit: Romans 8:9)}, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death {to get death from sin was an experience proper of unbelievers}.

6  But now {being us believers and having the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:9)} we are delivered from the law {then the mechanism of the motions of sins, which were by the law, and worked in our members to bring forth fruit unto death, is a dead mechanism for the believer; that is to say, that the believer cannot die spiritually nevermore}, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit {we the justified in Jesus serve by our newness of spirit, which cannot die from sin any more according to that Paul have said above in the verse}, and not in the oldness of the letter {as when unbelievers and experiencing spiritual death from sin}.

And always we need to remember it: if our spirit cannot die spiritually anymore, as was stated above by Paul, it is not because our proper righteousness, but because the righteousness of Jesus Christ has been definitively and completely imputed to us who believed in Him:

Romans 5:18-19

18  Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

19  For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

So Dan Corner, maintaining that a believer can die spiritually because of sin, is equating a believer to an unbeliever under the law. As we have seen, according to Paul the Apostle, a true Christian (a justified person by the righteousness of Jesus Christ) cannot die spiritually because of sin; then it is not strange to get Dan Corner (although he would not admit this) appealing to the law to make the believers to die spiritually, because for Dan a sin (a transgression of the law) can bring spiritual death to a believer; and that is clearly the mechanism in an unbeliever as opposite to the believers, who are not under the law and under the death the sin produces by the law, according to Paul. Then, Dan is putting himself under the law and implies, with his blabbing about believers dying spiritually, that the believers are under the law; what is the name such a person deserves? Answer: A vile advocate of salvation by the works of the law. And that is your sentence, oh Arminian!

Now here is a quoting (“A true Christian (or righteous person) can die spiritually because of sin (Ezek. 33:18… (www.evangelicaloutreach.org\imputed.htm, Imputed Righteousness)) Dan Corner presents a verse to say that believers can die spiritually (so contradicting Paul):

Ezequiel 33:18-19

18  When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby.

19  But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.

Even a child can note that it is a passage speaking of the righteousness which is by the works of the law, we can see a righteous according to the law turning from his righteousness, it is the case of someone considered righteous by his proper righteousness, but committing iniquity he shall die, as Paul the speaks of the unjustified at Romans 7:5:

Romans 7:5

5  For when we were in the flesh {when we were unbelievers, and had not the Spirit of God (because the believers are not in the flesh having the Spirit: Romans 8:9)}, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death {to get death from sin was an experience proper of unbelievers}.

As for the “the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby, a child can note it is the same things as the righteousness which is of the law:

Romans 10:5 

For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.

Leviticus 18:5 

Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.

Ezekiel 20:11 

And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.

Ezekiel 20:13 

But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.

Ezekiel 20:21 

Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness.

Luke 10:28 

And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live {Jesus, alike in the Old Testament, proving that a man cannot be saved by by the law, the conclusion was that the men did not keep all the law}.

Galatians 3:12 

And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Oh, Arminians, vile false teachers of salvation by the works of the law, how you can avoid your righteous damnation now that the gospel of the grace is present and in full force and explicated before your eyes by the Apostles? You, considering yourselves evangelist but showing your true nature of self-righteous!

Now, here is another quoting (“A true Christian (or righteous person) can die spiritually because of sin … Rom. 8:13 (www.evangelicaloutreach.org\imputed.htm, Imputed Righteousness)) Dan Corner presents Romans 8:13 to say that believers can die spiritually (so contradicting Paul); Corner says that a believer can live after the flesh an die, but he is ignoring the context where it is said for unbelievers and he is ignoring the context which says that a believer and son of God, by definition, is not living after the flesh:

Romans 8:13

For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die {the case of the unbelievers under de law, who are defined as being in the flesh (Romans 7:5), while the believers are defined as not being in the flesh (Romans 8:9) having the Spirit}: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live {the case of the believers who are defined as not being in the flesh (Romans 8:9) having the Spirit, and who are defined as being led by the Spirit by being sons of God, this is said in the following verse (Romans 8:14) in clear opposition to the unbeliever case who is living after the flesh in the previous verse (Romans 8:13)}.

The case is clear, at one hand we have the unbelievers, who are not sons of God, who have not the Spirit of God, presented as in the flesh and as living after the flesh; and at the other hand we have the believers, who are sons of God, who have the Spirit of God, presented as not in the flesh and as led by the Spirit. Yea, then a true believer by definition is not living after the flesh and is never to die, because to die is for all after the flesh (by definition unbelievers); then there is no more damnation to the believers who, by definition, are not after the flesh, and they cannot die spiritually anymore because they are free from the mechanism of sin producing death:

Romans 8:1-2 

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh {who we have showed are the sons of God and believers}, but after the Spirit.

2  For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Yea, “free from the law of sin and death”, then they cannot die spiritually because of sin, because the mechanism of sin producing death is not more effective upon the son of God:

Romans 7:5-6

5  For when we were in the flesh {when we were unbelievers, and had not the Spirit of God (because the believers are not in the flesh having the Spirit: Romans 8:9)}, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death {to get death from sin was an experience proper of unbelievers}.

6  But now {being us believers and having the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:9)} we are delivered from the law {then the mechanism of the motions of sins, which were by the law, and worked in our members to bring forth fruit unto death, is a dead mechanism for the believer; that is to say, that the believer nevermore can die spiritually}, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit {we the justified in Jesus serve by our newness of spirit, which cannot die from sin any more according to that Paul have said above in the verse}, and not in the oldness of the letter {as when unbelievers and experiencing spiritual death from sin}.

And because the sons of God are not in the flesh, are led by the Spirit and then they are not living after the flesh, then it is impossible to say that a believer may became he that soweth to his flesh (as Dan says “If a saved person sows to please his sinful nature he'll die spiritually … Gal. 6:8,9) (www.evangelicaloutreach.org\index.html)); it is grossly contradictory with the Bible and is fatuous to say that a believer, by definition, is not in the flesh and is not living after the flesh, and then to say that a believer may be sowing to his flesh; then when Paul speaks at Galatians 6:8 of “he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption”, clearly that man is someone in the flesh, not led by the Spirit, and living after the flesh, that is to say, that man is an unbeliever, has not the Spirit, and is not a son of God:

Galatians 6:7-9

7  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

8  For he that soweth to his flesh {someone in the flesh, an unbeliever having not the Spirit of God (because the believers are not in the flesh having the Spirit: Romans 8:9); someone living after the flesh, an unbeliever (because the believers are defined also as being led by the Spirit by being sons of God, this is said in Romans 8:14 in clear opposition to the unbeliever case who is living after the flesh in the verse Romans 8:13} shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit {the case of the believers who are defined as not being in the flesh (Romans 8:9) having the Spirit, and who are defined as being led by the Spirit by being sons of God, this is said in the verse Romans 8:14 in clear opposition to the unbeliever case who is living after the flesh in the verse Romans 8:13} shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

9  And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not {a true believer is not temporarily believer (1 Peter 1:7)}.

Galatians 5:24 

And they that are Christ’s {the heirs, then the sons of God obviously (Galatians 3:29), who are not in the flesh having the Holy Spirit, because if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his (Romans 8:9)} have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Obviously, being the believer definitively justified from sin, not under the sin to death mechanism, then made son of God for ever because his perfect justification in Jesus Christ, then eternally indwelled by the Holy Spirit to receive for ever the river of life, he has secured he will reap eternal life, as it is stated directly by Paul the Apostle that we shall obtain the final fruit of eternal life, obviously referred to the redemption of our body (Romans 8:23):

Romans 6:22

But now being made free from sin {aorist tense, a closed and terminated past act}, and become servants to God {aorist tense, a closed and terminated past act}, ye have {present tense, indicative mood, present and continued possession} your fruit unto holiness, and the end {final salvation} everlasting life {the final fruit assured to be reaped by the son of God as redemption of his body}.

We have here two closed and terminated past acts, being made free from sin and become servants to God, and the results of those past completed acts are therefore not dependent nor conditioned on another future thing; because they are said only to depend on those past completed acts; those results from those past acts are the fruits unto holiness and eternal life at the end, which is FINAL SALVATION, the final fruit assured to be reaped by the son of God as redemption of his body.

Dan speaks as if the saved are hoping eternal life for the soul as a final salvation:

Paul refers to an aspect of justification which is seldom mentioned:

So that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life (Titus 3:7, NIV).

In contrast to this and other clear Scriptures, but yet in conformity with OSAS, MacArthur wrote:

It is a done deal, not a goal we work toward. Eternal life is a present possession, not a future hope.

Dear reader, which contrasting message will you believe?

(www.evangelicaloutreach.org\initial2.htm, From Initial to Final Salvation, Continuing Chapter 5 of the book, The Believer's Conditional Security, by Dan Corner)

Mac Arthur is wrong and Dan Corner is wrong. Let us see what is the thing we really are hoping, we the saved are hoping not eternal life for our spirit (we have a fountain springing up for eternal life and never will thirst), we are hoping eternal life for our body only, salvation or redemption for our body:

Romans 8:19-25

19  For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

20  For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

21  Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

22  For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

23  And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

24  For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25  But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

Or in other words, we are saved but hoping to receive glorified bodies, it is our hope, because our soul is saved forever. It is the hope of the glorification of our bodies, which is coincident with the second coming of Jesus Christ in glory (not a secret pretribulational rapture, which is a false notion):

Colossians 1:27 

To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory

Titus 2:13 

Looking for that blessed hope, and the  {“the” is not in the Greek text, so the glorious appearing is the blessed hope} glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ

Titus 3:7 

That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life {the heritage of the sons of God, or adoption, is the redemption of the body according to Romans 8:19-25}.

Dan Corner uses also a parable, the parable of the prodigal son, to sustain the heretic idea that a son of God is under the sin to death mechanism:

If a saved person sows to please his sinful nature he'll die spiritually … The prodigal is a clear example of this (Lk. 15:24,32)..

(www.evangelicaloutreach.org\index.html)

But clearly, even against the opinion of many OSAS teachers, the parable is about salvation of the lost and not about the recuperation of saved persons, because the parable was said to illustrate the salvation of many lost publicans and sinners who were being received by the Lord; we shall highlight that facts to us:

Luke 15:1-32

1  Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him.

2  And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.

3  And he spake this parable unto them, saying, {that is the motive for the parables, lost sinners were being saved and the Pharisees did not understand it}

4  What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?

5  And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.

6  And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.

7  I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

8  Either what woman having ten pieces of silver, if she lose one piece, doth not light a candle, and sweep the house, and seek diligently till she find it?

9  And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the piece which I had lost.

10  Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.

11  And he said, A certain man had two sons:

12  And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.

13  And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.

14  And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.

15  And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.

16  And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.

17  And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father’s have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!

18  I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,

19  And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.

20  And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.

21  And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.

22  But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:

23  And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry:

24  For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.

25  Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing.

26  And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant.

27  And he said unto him, Thy brother is come; and thy father hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound.

28  And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him.

29  And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends:

30  But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.

31  And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.

32  It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.

As for James 1:14-16 (Dan Corner misuses it saying “A true Christian (or righteous person) can die spiritually because of sin … James 1:14-16 (www.evangelicaloutreach.org\imputed.htm, Imputed Righteousness)), there are no word indicating that a justified one can die spiritually, James is explaining the mechanism sin-death; he does not affirm that mechanism can be applied to the justified in Christ (that would be contradict Paul); so, in using James 1:14-16 to say that a son of God can die spiritually by a sin, Dan is adding to the Word of God and is concealing from the Word of God, concealing the clear teaching of Paul that the mechanism sin to death is of no effect upon the justified son of God.

But Dan Corner is not only incapable to recognize the great difference between the justified one and the not justified one of this time; he shows again his ignorance of the difference between the still not fallen but unjustified Adam and the saved and justified from all sin in Christ:

This teaching {The teaching of OSAS supposedly} led to Adam and Eve’s spiritual death. The essence of that sinister doctrine is that a person who has eternal life cannot afterwards die spiritually.

(www.evangelicaloutreach.org\sin.htm, The Slavery, Bondage and Controlling Power of Sin, Dan Corner)

This evil Dan calls the teaching of Paul the Apostle “sinister doctrine”, equating it whit the saying of the serpent, the problem of this anti-Paul man is that he does not difference between a life not sustained by the justification of all sins, and an eternal life sustained by the justification of all sins. Dan will not fool us! We have now discovered his trick! What have the believers in Christ that neither Adam before his fall nor angels before his fall had? Answer: Justification from the sin in the precious blood of Jesus Christ. That we have showed, a son of God is forever and unconditionally son of God because of his definitive and permanent justification. And that is the reason why Paul teached that the mechanism sin to death has no effect upon the justified sons of God, because they have Justification from the sin in the precious blood of Jesus Christ.

Corner misuses Luke 8:13 also but that was treated at the section “The Luke 8:13, Matthew 13: 20, 21,  John 15:2 and Romans 11:19-23 case”.

The last verse misused to contradict Paul is Hebrews 6:4-6 (“A true Christian (or righteous person) can die spiritually because of sin ... Heb. 6:4-6” (www.evangelicaloutreach.org\imputed.htm, Imputed Righteousness)). Before to treat Hebrews 6:4-6, we shall see the Dan Corner´s covering up, which he has made upon the book of Hebrews saying for example, “In other words, after initial salvation we must endure to the "end" to enter the kingdom of God and escape the lake of fire … Heb. 3:14 ….” (www.evangelicaloutreach.org\index.html); as usual, he is concealing of us the word of God, here Corner is concealing from us that the writer of Hebrews is saying that the professing but unbeliever does not endure to the end if they do not convert truly; that is an exhortation to unbelievers as we can easily show. Here is the complete text with all the parts that Dan Corner does not like that we know:

Hebrews 3: 1-19; 4: 1-11

1 Wherefore, holy brethren {professing Christians Hebrews (even the non Christians Hebrews may be called brethren by the Apostles: Acts 7: 2)}, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; {Here Paul is referring to professing Christians, who can be true believers or superficial believers, as will be disclosed subsequently}

2 Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house.

3 For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honour than the house.

4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.

5 And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;

6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end {the superficial believers or professed Christians but unbelievers do not hold the beginning of their confidence stedfast unto the end, as it is said in Mark 4: 16-17 and in 2 Peter 2:22, are not the house of the Lord; but if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end, then that is a proof that we have the un-perishable faith and are obviously the house of the Lord; obviously the true believer perseveres because he has an un-perishable faith (1 Peter 1.7) and not conversely; it would be a very fatuous thing to say that a believer has an un-perishable faith because he persevered to the end; the cause of the perseverance to the end is the un-perishable faith and not conversely! The perseverance to the end is only a proof of the un-perishable faith, not the cause; the un-perishable faith is the cause of the perseverance to the end}.

7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice {It is an exhortation to the quick true conversion of the not converted ones},

8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:

9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.

10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.

11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest {the rest is here the salvation that the true Christian is now entering as a result of the beginning of his faith, as it is evidenced from 4: 3; we have showed that the initial salvation at the beginning of the faith is eternally decisive, giving eternal salvation, and the present salvation is received as a result of the initial salvation, the final salvation is secured also by initial salvation at the beginning of the faith}.

12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God {Here is the problem of many: UNBELIEF, they are still unbelievers}.

13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end {the superficial believers or professed Christians but unbelievers do not hold the beginning of their confidence stedfast unto the end, as it is said in Mark 4: 16-17 and in 2 Peter 2:22, are not partakers of the Lord; but if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end, then that is a proof that we have the un-perishable faith and are obviously true partakers of the Lord; obviously the true believer perseveres because he has an un-perishable faith (1 Peter 1:7) and not conversely; it would be a very fatuous thing to say that a believer have an un-perishable faith because he perseveres to the end; the cause of the perseverance to the end is the un-perishable faith and not conversely! The perseverance to the end is only a proof of the un-perishable faith, not the cause; the un-perishable faith is the cause of the perseverance to the end};

15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.

16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.

17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?

18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? {Here is the true condition of the professed Christians but unbelievers, they are "them that BELIEVED NOT", they are not true believers, his profession and belief is only superficial. The "rest" is here the salvation that the true Christian is now entering by the beginning of his faith, as it is evidenced from 4: 3}

19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief {because of UNBELIEF the unbelievers have not entered in the salvation, the rest of 4: 3}.

1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it {Again, we see that Paul is dealing with unbelievers who are not entering in the rest as a result of the beginning of a true faith 4: 3}.

2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it {Again, here is the key issue, they heard the gospel but without faith, then they were not true believers, nor the true believers are who fall away, the professing unbelievers are who do it. For example, Dan Corner says that he is a Christian, but he is preaching salvation by works, first he comes out from Catholicism, but he is preaching salvation by works, then the word preached did not profit him not being mixed with faith in him that heard it; then he became hard to understand the truth and falled away preaching salvation by works}.

3 For we which have believed do enter into rest {The true believers, having believed (past time, at the beginning of faith) are entering in the rest, the rest is here the sufficient salvation that the true Christian is entering now as a result of the beginning of his faith (past time, then at the beginning of the faith), surely it is a hard thing for Dan Corner to admit that the true believers are entering now by their beginning faith and not by the resultant continuous faith}, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day {this is for the Seventh day Adventists}.

9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest {by the beginning of the true faith in CHRIST NOT BY THE WORKS, see 4: 3}, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief {UNBELIEF, that is the problem}.

At the book of Hebrews the exhortation to professed Christians but unbelievers is the key issue, an that is the case of Hebrews 6:4-8; but we shall present the entire passage to show the parts that Dan Corner, as usual, conceals from us; we shall highlight those parts:

Hebrews 6:4-8

4  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5  And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6  If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

7  For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:

8  But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

Dan Corner had concealed from us the fact that those men were without any fruit, and that therefore they were unbelievers. On this issue there is abundant material at the section “The Luke 8:13, Matthew 13: 20, 21,  John 15:2 and Romans 11:19-23 case”.

The last attempt to contradict Paul is for Dan Corner to present his “examples”, in this case he presents Solomon and Judas saying “A true Christian (or righteous person) can die spiritually because of sin … and never again return to Jesus, just as the Apostle Judas Iscariot and Solomon didn't return after they turned from the faith.(www.evangelicaloutreach.org\imputed.htm, Imputed Righteousness). But again Dan Corner is cheating us; Judas never was saved, as was demonstrated at the section “The John 6:66 and  Matthew 10:22 and 24:13 case”. As for Solomon we have he was subjected to the law to show the futility of the righteousness which is by the law:

 

1 Kings 6:11-13

11  And the word of the LORD came to Solomon, saying,

12  Concerning this house which thou art in building, if thou wilt walk in my statutes, and execute my judgments, and keep all my commandments to walk in them; then will I perform my word with thee, which I spake unto David thy father:

13  And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will not forsake my people Israel.

That is again the righteousness which is of the law:

Romans 10:5 

For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.

And not only Solomon failed, all the people of Israel failed also, as it was recognized by Peter:

Acts 13:39 

And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Acts 15:1-12

1  And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

2  When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.

3  And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.

4  And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.

5  But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

6  And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

7  And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

8  And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

9  And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

10  Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

11  But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

12  Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.

So, the law is only an introduction to show to the men their impotence to save themselves, but once they have seen their impotence and believed in Jesus they are no more under the law, the law has fulfilled his function:

Galatians 3:22-26

22  But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

23  But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

24  Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25  But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26  For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Now, only we need to point out that the disciples had not in them the Holy Spirit, but the Holy Spirit was with them but outside them at this point in theirlives before the Spirit descent in them at Pentecost:

John 14:16-17

16  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you { Greek: between you}  for ever;

17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you {Greek: at your side}, and shall be in you {Greek: in you}.

So, we can see by the exceptional case of Peter and disciples, believers, how was approaching the time of the Holy Spirit indwelling in them, a thing never seen before in the Old Testament times; so the Arminians, when putting Old Testament examples of “believers that lost the Spirit, or the faith, or the salvation”, are showing their sad ignorance of the difference between a New Testament believer and an Old Testament believer. For the New Testament believer only remains the redemption of his body (Romans 8:23) which will be the completion of the salvation of the soul, (the dead believers are hoping too the redemption of their bodies as a final aspect of salvation for theirs saved souls), and the future aspect (final salvation) means that the believer, in his future glorification at the day of the Lord, will have been saved from the dead by the redemption of his body, and his soul and spirit will be saved in that day in the sense that they will enter into the glory in the glorified body and never will go to the lake of fire; not in the sense that the soul and the spirit are hoping a final salvation from the fire, because the spirits and souls of the dead believers are in the presence of the Lord and not in hell, then they are saved even before the day of the Lord; but because their eternal salvation is completed with the redemption of the body it is said that they will be saved in future tense; but for the Old Testament believers it was remaining the redemption of their souls and of their bodies; it is a great difference that the Corners of the world ignore, as they ignore many things. We hope with faith the redemption of our body, but the Old Testament believers hoped with faith the redemption of their soul and body; and the souls of the dead believers of the Old Testament were in a subterranean place contiguous to the hell (Luke 16:19-30), they were well, but they were not still in heaven, and the paradise was below, because the way to the holiest of all was still not open (Hebrews 9:8); only when the Lord was dead and the precious blood of the New Covenant was spilt and He was resurrected as our priest that way was open (Hebrews 10:16-20) and the believers at the paradise were translated to the heaven (The paradise then below: Luke 23:43; the paradise now in the third heaven 2 Corinthians 12:2-4).

An Old Testament believer has not the Holy Spirit in him as we have now Him, his soul was saved in hope, but now our soul was saved and it is because the remaining redemption of our body that we are saved in hope (Romans 8:23-25). As the salvation of the soul of the Old Testament believer was future, it is not strange to see some of those Old Testament believers to lose the Holy Spirit assistance, the Holy Spirit who then was not of them nor in them; we can see it clearly in the case of the King Saul:

1 Samuel 11:6 

And the Spirit of God came upon Saul when he heard those tidings, and his anger was kindled greatly.

1 Samuel 16:14 

But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.

1 Samuel 19:23-24 

23  And he {Saul} went thither to Naioth in Ramah: and the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on, and prophesied, until he came to Naioth in Ramah.

24  And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?

Finally came the time for Saul to pay for his sins and to die in battle, but to die by his own hand, in horrible and shameful end. But it is interesting to see that even so Saul did not lose his future salvation of his soul and body because the Bible says clearly that Saul and his sons went to stay in the same place with Samuel the prophet; as the same Samuel the prophet said:

1 Samuel 28:16-19

16  Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the LORD is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy?

17  And the LORD hath done to him, as he spake by me: for the LORD hath rent the kingdom out of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour, even to David:

18  Because thou obeyedst not the voice of the LORD, nor executedst his fierce wrath upon Amalek, therefore hath the LORD done this thing unto thee this day.

19  Moreover the LORD will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines: and to morrow shalt thou and thy sons be with me: the LORD also shall deliver the host of Israel into the hand of the Philistines.

And at the fatidic day Saul, Jonathan and many of his brothers, were to reunite with Samuel in the same place; Saul, a sad life, a sad end, was to hope his future salvation with his sons in the company of Samuel the prophet, who obviously was at the paradise then contiguous to hell but not the hell itself. Many had attempted to evade the fact that the person speaking to Saul was Samuel himself, but those attempts were in vain; the Scripture plainly states, not at one time but repeatedly, that it was Samuel himself he that spoke to Saul:

1 Samuel 28:12-20

12  And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice {Surprise for the familiar spirit servant! Samuel himself came! That was out of the control of the familiar spirit! Then the man requesting her service was Saul!}: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.

13  And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.

14  And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself.

15  And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do.

16  Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the LORD is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy?

17  And the LORD hath done to him, as he spake by me: for the LORD hath rent the kingdom out of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour, even to David:

18  Because thou obeyedst not the voice of the LORD, nor executedst his fierce wrath upon Amalek, therefore hath the LORD done this thing unto thee this day.

19  Moreover the LORD will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines: and to morrow shalt thou and thy sons be with me: the LORD also shall deliver the host of Israel into the hand of the Philistines.

20  Then Saul fell straightway all along on the earth, and was sore afraid, because of the words of Samuel: and there was no strength in him; for he had eaten no bread all the day, nor all the night.

Yea, he was Samuel himself! And there is the blunt thing throwing down all the Dan Corner’s false doctrine of conditional security, Samuel said that Saul and his sons would be with him at the same place!

1 Samuel 28:19

Moreover the LORD will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines: and to morrow shalt thou and thy sons be with me: the LORD also shall deliver the host of Israel into the hand of the Philistines.

I am not afraid from the Dan Corner’s “examples” (Solomon, David, etc.) from the Old Testament, I have a clear and pathetic one, the worse desperate of all the cases, Saul, and the Lord reveals us that even Saul himself did not lose his salvation, then, in the Old Testament, a future hoped salvation.

It is time to finish by now the issue of Dan Corner misused Scriptures and to come back to the issue of the OJAJ-OVAV Relationship.

Romans 5:18-21; 6:1-2

18  Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

19  For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

20  Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

21  That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

1  What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

2  God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

 

Here, “by the righteousness of one … justification of life”, “righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord”, the eternal life is presented as dependent on the Christ righteousness imputed upon the believers (not upon the righteousness of the good works of the believer), so as by another demonstration OJAJ (Once Justified Always Justified) was showed, then it is demonstrated again OVAV (Once Vivified Always Vivified), because the eternal life is dependent on justification. Justification is the basis of eternal life, and was demonstrated that the INITIAL JUSTIFICATION is the FINAL and DEFINITIVE JUSTIFICATION; and if God is justifying it is only the remaining permanent RESULT of the definitive initial act perfectly consummated. So we have our graphic for the OJAJ-OVAV relationship:

Figure 9: The OJAJ-OVAV Relationship:

Now it is the time to put all the elements of OSAS seen till now together and related one another.

 

The OSAS almost complete picture:

Figure 10: The Once Saved Always Saved almost complete picture:

Someone who has believed in Jesus is forever son of God, is forever indwelled by the Holy Spirit of God, has eternal life forever, and cannot cease of believe. And all those marvelous things have originated only at one single glorious point, when God definitively justified the believer in Christ from all sin in the precious blood of Him; that single point is highlighted within the complete picture of the Once … Always … of the Once Saved Always Saved person.

The picture is almost complete, remaining to be included only the Once Predestinated Always Predestinated. Which we shall make subsequently.

(Continue at the third part).

 

 


 

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